We\'re all just pawns in gods little game, he created the dinosaurs and caused their death, now he made us and soon It\'ll be a matter of time before something horrid out of our own actions, nature or gods that will kill us all. Although....I\'m not going to die, Im important...

Really? Can you prove it isn\'t literal? By the same token, can anyone prove it is?

Exactly. That\'s exactly why I stated to keep the religious stuff to a minimum. I know a little is necessary, but don\'t argue, or say \"prove it\", as you know that it\'s impossible to prove either way.

ahh I hate to get into religious conversations like this, but I\'ll start with the mark of the beast 666 it\'s a roman game played so numbers represent letters or sounds, 666 would translate to the name of a ruler of Rome, but take a closer look at the original text and you\'ll see that the number is actually 668(I think, now that number MAY be wrong) and that was the name of the ruler of Rome at the time john wrote revelations(I\'ll give the names as soon as i go look them up). Rome was the enemy of the Christians as I\'m sure you know, and almost all of revelations is symbolism, and is not to be taken literally...just like I think genesis is seeing how god created man only 6 days after earth was created...but as we all know that\'s not true. back to revelations, not to mention that it was written in about the year 96 and it gave al indications that the world would end soon not 2000 years later. Every couple hundred years people look at revelations again and think that the end is coming RIGHT then, because the world has always had the same problems, and always will. John also believed that Roman power was illegitimate and that the worship of the emperor was idolatry, so a lot of the imagery he used at the time was directed at the roman emperor, it\'s kind of like ancient flaming(you know like what happened to tn only a lot more creative).
The apostle Paul, in Romans 13, advocated obedience to Rome. And advocated living quietly in peace with non-Christians in the Roman Empire. [historical fact]John advocated resistance, so John\'s book was controversial all through the time that Christians were not an officially recognized or legitimate group. Once Christianity became legitimate, and recognized by Constantine, then the Book of Revelation was a problem. Because one didn\'t want to insult the city of Rome or the Roman emperor[\\fact] that\'s really all the proof I have fro now...but I\'ll try to come up with more later.


EDIT: to anyone who cares every letter of the Greek and Aramaic alphabets was also a number, any name might be represented by adding up the numerical values of all its letters, this would of course convey the name to those who already knew it. The number 666 in Aramaic letters stood for Nero Caesar, and in as far as i can find has a deper allusion to Domitian(the ruler from September 14 AD 81 - September 16 AD 96) whom the church was indeed calling the second Nero, a Nero come to life again.


[Edited on 6-2-2005 by J_Hibiki]

Okkkkay, you can prove it. Whenever someone would trust the Bible\'s word with their live\'s, I always ask the same thing: Who wrote it? What makes it God\'s word? (notice it has a capital \"G\")

In the end, it comes down to a matter of faith.

See, that\'s what I\'ve always thought. There is \'evidence\' that the people who wrote the Bible were not drunks and lunatics: Apparently God chose them himself. But the only way you can believe that is if you believe in all the other stuff in the Bible.
So it does boil down to faith.

You must not be reading the same thing I am. Anyway, if you would like to know more, I\'d be glad to post some old texts from some biblical scholars I have lying around, but in the meantime, a book series that--while fiction--gives a broad, general sense of what happens. It\'s called Left Behind.

I don\'t plan on hijacking this thread, so I\'d post the texts on another topic.

it will be total darkness. We will all be dead in a matter of seconds

i don\'t care how i die




:P

[Edited on 9-2-2005 by metalman exe]

I think that when the world does indeed come to an end, it will be completely different than we will think. It may be a meteor, or it may be an ominous presence that destroies the Earth, or the entire universe for that matter. It can only be seen when it happens. I am nearly sure that it will be quicker than any of us anticipate, and much worse.

Will someone please think of the children before making such a terrible topic?

Apocalipse remonts us to wich teory is the right one,crecionist or cientist.
even so,the world is gonna over anyway,we are harming our enviroment.
soon or later,somehow or another,our end is near:cry:

What children? The youngest perosn I know of here is 12, and what is anyone under that age doing on a board? It could be potentially dangerous.

I kinda think apocalypse is coming.
1. the 9/11 attack
2. the many hurricanes in Florida
3. the Tsunami\'s in Asia
Isn\'t that more than enough proof that apocalypse is coming?

we are causing our own apocallipse,not god,Doh !
(- MOMMY,MOMMY,IS APOCALLIPSE GONNA HAPPEN?
-No son,why do you say that?
-I saw it on a board and it....mommy,who are those creepy guys on the 4 horses?.......):D:D:D:D:D